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Customers Say Garbage Rate Increase Stinks

Belmont City Council will hold a public hearing Tuesday on whether to accept Recology's 22 percent requested rate increase for trash/recycling collection.

If the comments made on are any indication, Tuesday's Belmont City Council meeting should be quite lively. 

The issue is whether or not the city council will approve . The increase would apply to all customers---both residential and business. 

Pursuant to Proposition 218, the city is required to hold a public hearing for any proposed assessments or fee increases. 

Recology, the city's trash, recycling and compost collection service provider, says the increase is necessary because of the "migration" of residents to smaller garbage cans. By recycling and composting more, there is less garbage to dispose of, however, the cost of disposal at area landfill sites continues to rise. According to Recology, the migration to smaller cans is causing the company to lose revenue. 

Under the current progressive rate structure, customers who use 20-gallon garbage cans pay far less than those who use the 32-gallon or larger cans. And businesses pay more than residents for all size cans.

At its November 9 meeting, the council listened to a presentation by the city's finance department that outlined a range of financial mechanisms and service reductions that could potenially lessen the proposed 22.6 percent increase. However, none of the scenarios presented sat well with councilmembers, in fact, the rate structures and various options for lowering the rates were confusing and complicated. 

Councilmember Warren Lieberman emphasized that he is in favor of progressive rates, "But our rates are too progressive." 

Mayor Coralin Feierach told staff, "I will not vote for the 22 percent raise. Come back with some figures and some options we can work with."

Councilmembers asked city staff to come back with some other options for avoiding the steep increase. City manager Greg Scoles said staff would come back with some alternatives to mitigate the progressive tiered rate structure.

At the public hearing, anyone wishing to address the council on the rate increase is asked to fill out a simple form, which is handed to the city clerk. Speakers will be called in the order by which they turn in their form.

For information on how to file a formal protest, see

The Belmont City Council meets tonight at 7:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers of City Hall, One Twin Pines Lane. For more information, or for the complete staff report and agenda, go to www.belmont.gov

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Rocky November 22, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Let's see Recology's financial statements to see if they deserve more than the 9.5% guaranteed profit under its ten year contract with the city.
Let's put the 22% rate increase to the vote of the residents and see what happens. More transparency, less greed.
Dan November 22, 2011 at 07:11 pm
Who negotiated a contract that guarantees them a 9.5% profit?
Whoever it was should be fired. What is the likelihood that, if Recology has a contract that guarantees them a 9.5% profit, that they will fail to find a way to siphon off money to make sure their profit is less than 9.5% so that they can ask for a rate increase? That would be "zero."
Laura Klieves November 23, 2011 at 03:25 am
Hmmm.... isn't the point of recycling to have less garbage? Now Recology wants an increase because the cost to collect garbage is more? What? Run that past me one more time? Recology, you're ridiculous. Get in line and take a number for my ever-decreasing disposable income.
Chili November 23, 2011 at 04:41 am
Recology is suggesting the City of Belmont raise garbage and recycle rates at least 14% because this is the amount meant to cover for services already provided in 2011. Not much that can be done now other than ask Recology for a loan to pay the amount owed back over a three or four year period, if they agree and who knows at what interest rate? A rate increase is immanent unless the City of Belmont pays the bill from it's reserves.
ALL the current city council members (Braunstein, Feierbach, Lieberman, Warden and Wozniak) voted for the current bad Recology contract. Only Lieberman and Braustein are open to dealing with this issue in good faith and offered up a solution at the City Council meeting on the issue. Shame on Major Coralin Feierbach for framing the debate around the Recology's business practices when it was her error in judgement in agreeing to a contract where Recology would have a built in profit. No appologies to the citizens of Belmont. Oddly, Coralin Feierbach wants people to use smaller cans and this will only further cause an earnings shortfall. She speak out of both sides of her mouth. At the November 22, 2011 Council Meeting they voted to have the new city manager to explore cost reductions and ways to stretch the payments over time. Good luck with that strategy, it is doomed to fail. - Chili
Jake November 23, 2011 at 02:54 pm
An article in the San Mateo Daily Journal states that Belmont Recology customers will be paying considerably more than San Carlos or San Mateo customers because Belmont has less commercial customers. So, as a city, we need to pay about the same amount as San Mateo? BELMONT IS A SMALLER CITY YOU IDIOTS!!! This makes no sense, whatsoever. Who the hell agreed to this?!
Steve Hayes November 23, 2011 at 03:05 pm
Justin-
Did you watch or attend the Council meeting last night? We have heard all week that we should protest the fee increase, but the people suggesting that know there is no way the protest will have any impact because they would need 50% of the residents to protest for it to have any impact. Furthermore, I did not get the sense that the Council was really prepared to deal with the issue - the messages between staff/consultant and Council are not clear and Council was more interested in delaying a decision than really understanding the problem, facing the problem and solving it. The deadline is Dec. 15 and they are not even close to coming up with a solution. I have noticed the current rates in SC are about the same as they are in Belmont - SC charges a little more for 20/32 and a little less for 64/96 and they charge commercial about the same as residential. Both SC and Belmont have rates much higher than SM and I do not know why - perhaps they charge more because Belmont and SC have more customers on hills and service on hills costs more. The Belmont consultant should be explaining all of this.
Steve Hayes November 23, 2011 at 04:24 pm
San Carlos is raising all of their rates 5% for 2012. Currently (before the 5%) they charge-
20 - $16.44 versus $15.17 in Belmont 32 - $26.30 vs $25.12 in Belmont 64 - $54.72 vs $55.35 in Belmont 96 - $83.72 vs $89.50 in Belmont
pearl November 28, 2011 at 02:08 am
PUT IT TO A VOTE OF THE CITIZENS OF BELMONT!!!! IT'LL BE VOTED DOWN IN A LANDSLIDE VOTE!!!
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George Metropulos June 19, 2013 at 12:42 pm
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Steve Hayes June 19, 2013 at 12:54 pm
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George Metropulos June 19, 2013 at 12:59 pm
Do you really think the city is waiting for someone to get killed?
Michele Moyer June 16, 2013 at 09:17 am
Thanks Joan - there is one in the sub-head of the blog I posted on School-Force Voices today; wouldRead More love if it could be corrected. Been scratching my head til I saw this post :)
Joan S. Dentler (Editor) June 16, 2013 at 11:20 am
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Belmont96 June 13, 2013 at 09:40 am
I also preferred the 'old' Patch - this format makes it difficult to find articles that are aren'tRead More that old. One example was the informative article on who was running for city Council. I was having problems finding it and finally had to query on a candidate's name to find. I don't recall having that issue with the original format. Also our neighborhood had a water break line and we were without water for some hours a few Sundays ago. I tried to find out the reason for the break (because of construction or old pipes?) and could not find anything on the Patch regarding this. Not sure if they just didn't report or I just couldn't find.
Judi June 14, 2013 at 07:28 am
Not crazy about the new Patch either. Also, I want to post-for sale, and this section is crowdedRead More with announcements, etc.
Pearl June 14, 2013 at 04:15 pm
Another thing that needs to be fixed: When you go to leave a comment, it takes you over to whereRead More you have to sign in, you sign in expecting to be returned to the article on which you are commenting, but it, instead, takes you back to some different article. PLEASE FIX THIS!!!! Also, please reinstate the feature where we can sign up to be notified if/when more comments are made concerning the article(s) we've commented on so we can follow the conversation. Thank you.
Christa Bigue (Editor) June 10, 2013 at 01:50 pm
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Michael Williams June 9, 2013 at 04:12 pm
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don torre June 4, 2013 at 06:55 am
what do the local Belmont restaurants think of this? do these people pay a license to the city?
Joan S. Dentler (Editor) June 4, 2013 at 07:15 am
Hi Don....thanks for your question. Yes, Off the Grid does pay a licensing fee to the city, and soRead More far, we haven't heard any concerns by local restaurants. The food trucks provide an option to a traditional restaurant---pick up and go----and they are only around 4-5 hours per week (on Mondays, typically not a big restaurant night anyway). Have you tried the food yet?